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- Eleanor White.
- raven1@mail.nas.net
7-22-00
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- This is for the benefit of the many new correspondents from among the
electronic mind weapons community and who may not fully understand that
there is a second, large group of government experimentees, colloquially
called "MKULTRA survivors", who were in the institutional/drug/child abuse/
ritual abuse experiments which ran from the 50's thru the 70's.
Katherine Sullivan has asked me to post this, and I'd like to let new
correspondents know that her posting gives us a glimpse of the "flip side"
of what we are going through.
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- These folks have had their imprisonment and direct abuse phases ended,
but what Katherine is talking about is that the MKULTRA organization still
has perps in the field, who keenly want these survivors to be discredited.
They "know too much".
MKULTRA survivors' minds were filled with hypnotic "triggers" (programming)
and the perps Katherine speaks about are taking advantage of their weakened
mental state (NOT mental illness, rather, years of hypnotic programming
and torture) to keep what they know suppressed.
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- To read up on what their experiences have been like, you can visit the
Advocacy Committee for Human Experimentation Survivors - Mind Control
(ACHES-MC) at: http://www.aches-mc.org
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- Katherine's own site is listed below, however, her site is not intended
to provide MKULTRA history, but rather, to assist MKULTRA survivors to
shake off their years of hypnosis and torment and get their lives together.
Katherine has generously provided an "EM section" in her memorial garden
in remembrance of our torment.
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- In effect, we electronic mind weapons victims have an "MKULTRA heritage",
and the experiences of these survivors are POWERFUL assists to convincing
the public that there really ARE perps this nasty in every government.
- Eleanor
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- (Katherine's glimpse into MKULTRA survivorhood follows)
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- Comment
- From Katherine Sullivan: katydid@mail.cdc.net
7-22-00
- I am the woman Brice Taylor mentioned as also having been lied to and
more by Mark Phillips.
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- She asked me about four years ago to support her in physically confronting
Mark at a conference where he and David Icke and Cathy were all presenting
together, in Atlanta. I called Icke's people a week before that conference
to let him know what Mark had done to me and Brice, letting Icke know
that Mark was a fraud and was very dangerous. I followed the phone call
up with a priority mail package, that included sufficient information
to show that Mark was dangerous to survivors. Icke never acknowledged
my information.
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- The night before the conference started, Brice dropped out of the picture
after informing me that "Jesus" told her that it was not her time to confront
Mark, which left me alone to do so. (Being a Christian, I was a bit confused
about that. If "Jesus" told her to go and to ask me to support her in
confronting Mark, then why in the world would "Jesus" change his mind
and tell her NOT to go? Claiming getting orders from Jesus and the Holy
Spirit can sure help a person avoid taking responsibility for his/her
own behavior and decisions...)
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- The second day of the conference, I tried to talk to David alone in
a hallway. He looked quite sheepish, clearly recognizing who I was ( it
bugged me...he looked SO darned familiar from somewhere in my covert past),
ducked his head and walked quickly the other way. He was clearly quite
chummy with Mark and Cathy during the entire conference, and I blanched
and became physically ill at one point when Cathy played gently with David's
hair, and he looked up at her face, beaming like a lover. Not a good sign.
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- So now I am quite amused that Icke, who blatantly reinforces "lizard
men" screen memories in high-level MC survivors' minds to discredit them
to the public and in court, is suddenly helping to expose Mark. I've seen
this behavior before. In this instance, former business partners (Gunderson,
Icke, Phillips and Bowart/Kirby) suddenly turn on one of their own, AFTER
it is obvious that their partner's are not going to behave and be quiet
about his activities. The others had years of warning from the victims,
to step out and denounce him.
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- The way I see it, Mark became too much of a liability to them. This
behavior on the part of Mark's friends/partners is not dissimilar to when
children go to the police and media about a group of criminal cultists
who have been ritually traumatizing and raping them for years. The cultists
throw out one of their people for the police and legal system to make
an open fuss over and slap in prison, and the others continue doing their
dirty work just like before, never being legally named.
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- In the MC survivor community, I've seen this tactic taken one step further.
"Good guy bad guy" routine. By helping to publicly out their partner,
after having been tight with him for many years, it makes other perps
look like they are heros. Then the the outed perp's victims (eg: Brice)
go running to THEM for protection and information. And the survivor's
external control and victimization continues...
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- The other thing I've noticed is how many perps are popping up in the
survivor community, mostly but not all males, as investigators and heros.
As spokespersons. They do the talk circuits and books, controlling and
endorsing usually one survivor like a trained seal (eg: Phillips/O'Brien),
who in turn endorses them.
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- I've been approached by at least three of these guys, who tried do to
do that "you and me babe, we can make a fortune" routine, but it did not
appeal to me after I was what happened to Cathy (and, I believe, is also
still being done to Brice.) I don't know if it's because so many of us
were abused by fathers and are still looking for an older male to care
and protect us, or if it's because we're just damned lazy (as I tended
to be with Mark) and choose to depend on another of a succession of controllers
in our lives. But the pattern I've seen repeatedly is that these people
are usually RECYCLED PROGRAMMERS. They come back into our lives, daring
to hope that we will not remember them. And of course, if they are back
in our lives, we will not feel safe enough to be able to consciously remember
them!
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- Then they get back into our heads very quickly and easily, drain us
dry of all our memories and proofs and money, and then use us, as Mark
did Cathy, as lures to draw in OTHER MC survivors that they can drain
and control, likewise.
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- I used to get so enraged when I saw yet another survivor fall prey to
one of these scum, but I've gotten to the point where I've realized this
is part of healing and recovery -- going into relapse and learning from
it once one gets free again. After being controlled all of one's life,
it is extremely difficult to stand on one's own two feet and do one's
own cognitive thinking. They know that and are quick to take advantage
of it.
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- This is why survivors in the know keep telling other survivors how absolutely
crucial it is for them to be their OWN heroes, their OWN investigators.
To depend on anyone else to tell us what to do or think or believe is
to open ourselves to another controller and more misery and danger.
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- I have already posted on the Internet about my experiences with Mark
and Cathy. I have written several investigators and numerous survivors
about them. Mark knows where I stand about him; Cathy probably remembers
very little, other than what Mark wants her to think. If anyone wants
further info about my experience with Mark, give me a snail mail address
and I'll send a package to you. This man is dangerous and must be avoided
by MC survivors at all cost.
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- Part 2
- I agree that Mark definitely seemed to at least partially working for
the benefit of Henry Kissinger aka "Kissybutt." When I tried to talk to
Mark about my memories of Henry and what he did to children, including
myself, Mark told me I must be mistaken. This is while he was still acting
like most of what else I remembered (via his use of so-called "key, codes
and triggers") was valid.
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- About two years after I broke away from Mark's influence, I wrote about
Henry in my creative non-fiction book, MK. Henry is the character I named
"Senator Edward." I wrote the book before I got any outside verifications
from any other survivors, etc. that Henry was indeed a vicious pedophile.
(He once made my rectum bleed horribly and put me in great pain, he raped
me so brutally.) Henry was, and probably still is, one of the most brutal
buggerers I had the displeasure to endure as a child.
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- At the same time, he was one of the most fascinating owners I had the
"privilege" (or so I thought) to spend time with, including in my adult
years. He has an absolutely brilliant mind and is so wicked he's funny.
And he seemed to know everything about everybody of value to him, down
to what kind of underwear they bought!
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- He was one of my primary owners, along with the White House and the
CIA and Robert Maxwell of Gr. Britain. I understood pretty early on that
Henry was one of the major powers behind the White House. I also knew
from personal experience that he answered to Nelson Rockefeller, and then
David Rockefeller. (David ran Henry, Henry ran George Bush Sr., and so
on.) Jimmy Carter let Henry know he was unwelcome and later, so did Clinton.
Both men paid for that, dearly, especially by being publicly humiliated.
Henry loves to rub his enemies' noses in the dirt. Pretty typical for
a Luciferian...
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- But Henry had his spies in place anyway. He blackmailed a certain high-profile
senator from the Southeast, another pedophile who was obsessed with his
victims' cleanliness (enemas, saran wrap between him and the victim, shaved
body, etc.), to spy on Carter and pass the info back to Kissinger. I was
used as a go-between that way as well, when I lived in Atlanta...
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- Mark showed me a 8x10 black and white of Monica Lewinsky, a couple of
years before the scandal broke. He said she was a "presidential model"
and asked if I remember her. I said no, and he told me he knew she was
a Presidential Beta sex slave because of her "clockface" mole markings.
What I would give to have that picture now...
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- I read very little of Brice's second book. If I saw a section that seemed
to include information about any perp I had remembered, I skipped it.
That pretty much left the intro and the sections on Barbra Streisand and
JFK .
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- I had totally opposite experiences than she claims to have had with
JFK, and do have great difficulty in believing what she wrote about him.
In my situation, I was told I was one of his many children out of wedlock.
At that time, I believed it. Now, it doesn't matter -- I am who I am.
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- I was taken by my parents (one or both) to meet him at least 3-4 times,
and he used to send David Powers out near Reading, PA to visit with me
and two female relatives in a church on Saturdays, to ask how I was doing.
(I identified his picture about a year ago. Definitely him. Really neat
man.) Although Rose Kennedy was a total cold bitch after his murder, when
I was presented to her along with other children, JFK was one of the most
positive people in my life, always caring and affirming and encouraging.
If it had not been for how he treated me, which gave me great strength
when life was hardest, I don't think I could have survived. He was never
physically inappropriate with me and when I did beg him on one occasion
to have sex with me, he walked away physically shaken and outraged --
not at me but at the fact that someone conditioned me to want this from
a man. He was an antivenin when just about every other man in my young
live was toxic and dangerous to me. And then, damnit, he had to die. That
about killed me.
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- Even years later, I was introduced to people by Henry and others as
a "Kennedy Brat." It was a heavy burden to bear because it made me feel
an extra strong responsibility to our country. Maybe that was their game
the entire time, maybe I am a Kennedy Brat. If so, it would be an honor.
If not, it was fun thinking they were telling the truth.
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- I don't know if Brice really remembered JFK doing such things to her
or not, but it would have been totally out of character for the man. I
do know, however, from things Mark Phillips and Walter Bowart told me
about her, that she was heavily conditioned to put her whole worth into
being wanted by men. Walter used the trigger words "beautiful Brice" with
her too often to be coincidence. I've had to face that if I were conditioned
-- starting in early childhood --to believe that if I ever lost my value
as being beautiful and attractive to men, I would be killed, then the
most terrifying thing that could happen to me is that a man would not
want me sexually. If that were true, then I would HAVE to say that every
man I approached wanted me, and we had sex. Pretty scary thought.
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- I also knew Streisand...not as a perp, but as a victim who was very
much like Brice in personality, behaviors, etc. Very similar. I have remembered
seeing Streisand once in South Africa and I also saw her piss people off
pretty regularly at DC cocktail parties Henry took me to as his "niece."
(He usually made me wear plain brown clothes.) I also knew (can't remember
if Brice wrote this) that Streisand was also run by Henry. This is also
an uncomfortable thought, because Streisand is very very close to Bill
Clinton...so I wonder, is Henry using her to get info on the man that
way? To pay him back for not allowing Henry to be a part of the administration?
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- I was extremely angry that Brice made it look like Barbra victimized
Brice when the reality was, they were both equally victims and both had
sexually perverse alter-states. Barbra is a victim. Brice is a victim.
Neither one had any choice in what they did. Both were under orders and
both were conditioned via rape, torture, degradation, and so much more.
I did awful things under orders, too. If Barbara were to openly and consciously,
in her host alter-state, choose to sexually assault another female, that
would be another matter. To target a fellow victim in a book and expose
what the controllers conditioned that victim to do to other females (I
was given to females, too) is not right nor fair. They instructed Brice
to do things sexually to me too, but I understand now she had no choice.
She was not in her conscious mind. We were both victims, the same way
she and Barbra were also both victims.
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- I have kept my memories clean and uncontaminated and am glad I chose
to do so. But yes, I definitely knew Kissinger for many years.
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- In 1992 when Clinton made it clear he didn't want Kissinger or anything
he had to offer -- including my black op services (unlike Reagan and Bush
Sr.) -- Henry told me that "they" (Aryans/Nazis) would eventually take
over the government and when they did, he'd have me back as his "pet."
I really believed him then, since he had personally tortured and terrorized
me. But now I don't believe him. He's an old con. A brilliant, very wounded
old con. I still wonder what the Nazi officers did to him when he was
their alleged Jew-Boy driver...go figure...
- I realized about two years ago that former owners like Henry WANTED
their victims to go public and tell the world that they were going to
take over and rule us all. NWO and all that. Why should their victims
not believe it, when they did rule us completely? But now that I am free
and have had enough time away from their thinking, and have spend a considerable
amount of time living in regular society, I realize they are not powerful
in the real world the way they tried to trick me into believing. It's
been smoke and mirrors all along. Intel occultists are the worst possible
combo. They especially know that the easiest way to weaken an opponent
is to psych him out. In fact, sometimes there is no need to attack at
all, because the terror can cripple so completely. They've been using
too many of us to do this dirty work for them, especially through the
Patriot community and people like Icke and Mark and Cathy and Brice and
Gunderson. I refuse to be a part of the scam anymore.
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- Reality check: the so-called controllers aren't controllers at all.
They are miserable humans. They defecate and get ulcers and feel pain
and loneliness and have miserable marriages and are in absolute terror
of each other. They aren't ruling anyone. They never will. Freedom is
a condition of the soul. They will never have what we have. We are free;
they never will be. They are permanent prisoners of each other. They know
that if they ever change heart, if they ever decide to tell the truth,
they are dead men. They are too high-profile and they have too many proofs.
God, have mercy on them because I doubt if anyone else will.
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- Katherine aka Kathleen Sullivan
President of PARC-VRAMC http://parc-vramc.tierranet.com
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- -I will not do interviews about this stuff. I do not want to do another
book. I will not address any of this at conferences. I just plain wrote
this because I'm tired of holding secrets. -None of what I wrote in this or the previous posting have anything
to do with my position as PARC president. I write these as private opinions
and information only.
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- PARC-VRAMC stands for
"Positive Activism, Remembrance
and Commemoration for Victims of Ritual Abuse and Mind
Control". PARC-VRAMC, a non-profit corporation,
began in
November, 1996 as a steady effort towards reaching a
minimum of two goals:
1) To create, expand, and maintain a garden 1/2 hour from
Chattanooga, TN as a living memorial to persons who
have
been subjected to sadistic abuse, ritualized torture
and/or
invasive experimentation perpetrated against them
without
their knowledge and/or informed consent
2) To educate the public regarding the impact of sadistic
abuse, ritualized torture, and invasive non-consensual
experimentation on humans.
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